My Seborrheic Dermatitis Skin Regimen 2.0

Hi Hakan,

Thanks for the update.

Unfortunate to hear that you didn’t see much improvement on the program.
Currently I am working on a post that examines malassezia and hair-loss. Next one after that will be looking at the connection to stress in greater detail.
So far, I personally believe that in adults, seborrheic dermatitis is most likely caused by fatty acid issues within the body (which may be created via different underlying reasons).

Glad to hear that things got under control again.
Are you doing any treatments still or just trying to influence it with lifestyle factors.

All the best.

Hi Sanya,

Happy to hear that your order arrived without any difficulties.
Have gone ahead and answered the question to the best of my ability over at the Biom8 website:

How Much Skin Conditioning Oil Should I Use

Hope that answers your question. Overall though, it seems the best approach is to find an amount that is most suitable in for your skin.
Perhaps in the beginning stages, you may want to use more oil to allow the skin to stabilize. Once better, simply use small amounts to maintain.

It was summer when I first started using it myself and I was using it as a tanning oil for my face (when battling with SD my skin became extremely sensitive to the sun).
This allowed me to finally tan my face and also seemed to have a beneficial compounding effect on the SD(sun light may regulate the innate immune response of the skin).

Hope you see similar results to mine. Best of luck and look forward to hearing how things go.

Hi Sanya,

Perhaps you can try using more oil to see how that works for you.
My previous response/comment may also provide some insight:

Previous Response on How Much to Use

Personally, I would try to find the minimal amount that keep the things covered and moisturized.
All the best.

Hi Susie,

Thanks for the additional details.

Our intestinal microflora does seem to play a significant role in the state of our overall immunity.

For example. the intestinal bacteria have a role in synthesis of vitamins B and K plus a myraid of other vital roles in overll nutrient metabolism (source).

In addition various components of body immune function may be influenced by our intestinal environments. For example, much of IgA synthesis occurs in the gut (source) and appears to be directly influenced by the present bacterial flora.

From this one could assume that the antibiotics may have negatively influenced her intestinal environment. And her skin simply doesn’t have all the nutrients/components required to stay healthy.

One of my relatives kids was born with a defected microflora and had tons of issues with eczema and various other bodily functions. Only after several years of high potency probiotics (they came in liquid and required cold storage) was he able to restore his child’s state.

Perhaps seeking the guidance of a gastroenterologist may be a good option.

Hope you finally find the cause of your daughters issues.
Look forward to any updates.

Hey Michael,
I have been suffering from SD for 15+ years now but only on the top to back of my scalp mainly. I want to try BIOM8 but am wondering if I get the 250ml bottle can you include the tips? It seems I would be using the precision tip to apply it onto the back of my scalp unless you have an update for the scalp solution you were working on?

Hi Michael

Except from a healthy lifestyle I use your probiotic spray after showering. It still works great for me!

I highly recommend the spray to those that have issues with topical oils like myself. Any oil makes my condition to get worse.

I’m still trying to find the ‘early research’ again that stated that there are different types of SD. This is probably similar to the different fungis/bacterias/microbes etc. that your are writing about in your posts Michael.

Thanks again Michael for all the help you’re providing us with.

Håkan

Hi Michael,

I have been using the biom 8 oil since 20th March evening. That is two and half days. I apply it morning and evening after washing my face with water only. I can say that there is a slight improvement with the flaking on my eyelids. I see the flakes on the rest of my face when I put the oil, they are rolling down my cheeks. But the skin is covered, and they are unnoticable. However, I have noticed the appearance of two little red pimples, one near my nose and one on the forehead. I must mention that I have oily and acne-prone. Moreover, when I wash my face in the evening/morning. I sense the skin rough, especially the cheek and jaw line area. Also, after I apply the oil, and it is absorbed into the skin, that area on the cheeks and the jaw line (left-right) is dry and rough again, as if I haven’t put the oil at all. And I try to cover that section well. What seems to be the problem?

Thank you for any recommendations.
Sanya

Hi Hakan,

I wanted to ask you, why do you have problems applying topical oils on your skin? Do you have oily skin? My facial skin is oily and acne-prone and it appears that after 4 days of applying biom 8, my skin became rough. So I returned to my basic Kelual DS moisturizer. What is your experience with the probiotic?

Thanks,
Regards,
Sanya

Hi Sanya

SD on my face always gets worse when I apply oil or fat of any kind. My skin is a bit oily in general.

The oil free probiotic spray on biom8.com works great together with a diet free from processed foods and no alcohol.

I first spray it on my hand and apply it on the face with my fingers, after showering. I don’t spray it directly to my face since this amount is too much.

Two table spoons of cheap barberries three times a day have amazing effects on acne in this new study on humans:

Thank you Hakan,
I also wanted to ask you, what do you put after use the spray? do you use any kind of moisturizer?

Regards,
Sanya

Sanya,

I never use moisturizers. Just the spray.

Håkan

Sorry for the late reply, I’ve lately tried Humaworm to see if it would help. I’ve stopped taking MSM but the Humaworm tablets do a similar job in clearing my skin. The hair loss is still the same though unfortunately. I’ve made so many changes to my diet but still it doesn’t seem to do much at curing my problem, but I think I’m controlling it better.

In your first article you mentioned your dislike that people were claiming to have answers by Hawking creams. Looks like that’s exactly what you’re doing here.

Hi Michael,
I just order Biom8 yesterday and hope it will arrive soon. I have a question for you… I think I got SD last Christmas, however i had never known it was SD, just thought it was my skin getting dry due to the weather so I just kept applying moisturizer… When my old moisturizer for oily skin didn’t work anymore, I changed to moisturizer for dry skin. I had to apply a lot of them to make my skin feel less rough. Then i began seeing so much flakes on my skin between eyebrows. I still thought it was my dry skin so I kept applying moisturizer. Now when I got to know it is SD and stop applying cream, the flakes already spread to a much larger area (still between my eyebrows but it travels down to the level of my eyes).

I also see there are a lot of tiny flakes (like small dandruffs) around my mouth that seem to be traveling to my cheeks now. They don’t scale off, they are just tiny like dry skin (but I know it is not dry skin, i believe my eyebrow problem used to be like this at first stage). I don’t know what to do with this? For last few days I just let the flakes on my eyebrow area alone and now they get so dry… i hope they will come off after someday. But how about those tiny white dots (flakes) around my mouth? Should I leave it alone too?

I apply hyaluronic acid (bought from gardenofwisdom) 2 times a day just to keep my skin moistened. I try so hard to keep myself away from touching or scratching the itching area. What I am afraid the most is SD will spread.

Please help :slight_smile:

Hi, sent a comment once but don’t know where it’s gone.
I suffer from SD for almost 6 months now, first I thought it was just because of the weather… The strangest thing is my skin is super oily, and it got super dry after I got this SD.

I just order Biom8, I hope I will get it soon… Could you please tell me how much time it often takes to get to USA? I have never used any topical cream my derm prescribed me as I know they won’t help. I also didn’t apply coconut oil or anything similar, now I’m just applying my usual moisturizer (hyaluronic acid). My skin feels very tight and dry but I don’t want to apply any oil-based moisturizer.

I have some flakes between my eyebrows. When I apply moisturizer this flaky patch seems to be hidden but at the middle of day the flakes start showing up and the skin there gets so red. For last 4 days I want to see how it is without moisturizer. It’s now not red anymore but very scaly. The scales seem to be thicker now. Do you have any idea when it will scale off by itself?

I also have tiny flakes above my mouth and along my nasal fold. What should I do for now? I’m so confused… If I apply something too oily it can help with tightness and dryness but it might spread the seborrhea. If I don’t, the skin feels too dry for me.

Thank you!

Hi guys, new to the website, but what a great website it is. Loads of concise info and advice.

I have had SD for a couple of years, currently only around my nose. I know that it appears there are definitely different triggers of SD and probably different compositions of it which is why some people have success with some treatments and not others.

I seem to really suffer in the winter, in the last 3 winters I have had IBS, ( I am in the UK so it gets cold !!) Then 2 years ago, I got the rash on the face.
I have a stressful job which sees me sat at a computer for hours on end so when I read this website, I literally was a walking time bomb for this condition, stressful job, no sunlight, issues with digestion.

I have decided to see this is a positive turning point in my life, improve my diet, reduce my stress, get more time outdoors which will ultimately hopefully lead to get rid of my SD. I think Michael you are definitely right about a lot of it being to do with your thoughts, if I spend a lot of time worrying about the rash or even staring in the mirror looking at it, I can physically make it’s appearance worse just by doing this.

I have a question, I went on holiday last week to a much warmer climate. I got there about 5pm, had one meal, a quick dip on the pool. By the middle of the next morning so I had been there for less than 24 hours, my SD had 95% cleared up !! I know there are a lot of theories about different water, or food, or the sun helping with SD but I don’t think I was there long enough for this to kick in so quickly. So my theory is the stress reduction. Anyone have any thoughts on this ? Also does anyone else have IBS, I wonder if this is common in people with SD, thanks for listening,

hi all, new to the site. Great info and lots of positive posts. I have had SD for about 2 years and I agree, a load of misleading info on the net. What has worked for me more than anything else is less stress and sunlight.

I have have had Crohn’s since 2008, but this is the first year I encountered SD. WebMD and other sites talk about the prevalence of SD in people with IBS/Crohn’s. Don’t quote me, but the statistics are really high, as I seem to recall. Haven’t looked those sites in months since my condition has been gradually improving.

Hi Mark

Stress behind the computer is a bigger SD trigger for me as well.

We should do something about it :slight_smile: I tend to relax the best when being outdoors on my free time.

I think we should try to not sit behind the computer for more than 45 minutes and then take a short brake.

Maybe start some relaxing techniques on and off work.

I find it easy to stay away from sugar, wheat and alcohol, but not the stress. I go to bed early as well.

A short walk during lunch is great thing too.

Best wishes

Håkan in Sweden

Was it a salt water pool? Salt water heals SD. Swimming in the ocean is the best. But even chlorine pools seem to kill it off as well. Sun heals it as well. But it is an internal issue, and is healed by a very clean diet and plenty of movement and exercise. This guy, Rob Stuart, has an awesome youtube channel with lots of good info. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsN34Z1iyQYoFrxK7nL7GOA